Sheldon Mills: Welcome to Habit Masters.
I'm Sheldon. I'm Jeff. And today is our 90th episode. Woo. Which we are excited about. Wait till the hundredth. Okay.
Jeff Corrigan: Way till the hundredth.
Sheldon Mills: We have something, something a little different today. We wanna kind of give you guys frankly a little sneak peek into how we develop a lot of our podcasts and a lot of our ideas cuz Jeff and I get on and we just talk and talk.
And we've actually started recording these a lot because this is when the insights really happen.
Jeff Corrigan: so where we share with each other and kinda like noodle them around and yeah, really refine and figure out how this works. Just didn't on paper, but in our real life and how we can start using it as a practice rather than just a lucky thing.
Yeah.
Sheldon Mills: Yeah. And I've talked to some people literally to ask questions about how the process of things, so I hope you guys find this interesting. We had enough, I don't even wanna call it breakthrough ideas, and you'll hear it, we sound like dorks, , just like we're like excited about our own things that we're talking and sharing with each other.
Like, oh, what about this? So yeah, this, right? But I think you guys will like it. There's some good nuggets in there.
Jeff Corrigan: Yeah. This concept that we talk about primarily in this episode it's mind blowing and it really has helped me understand how to live my dreams now versus having them in some like future.
Someday. It's like, oh yeah, in 10 years I'll be able to do X, or in five years I'll be able to do X, or next year I'll be able to do X. It really kinda puts that in perspective and helps you understand how to make your dreams a reality right from the start. And not just make progress, but maybe make quantum leaps, right.
Where's the worm hole that's gonna take you to your destination years faster than you thought you might get there?
You're gonna love it. , enjoy.
Sheldon Mills: Say that last part again. Because we've used this metaphor before, but we should solidify this and use it on this next show.
Jeff Corrigan: Yeah. So I think I finally understand time tipping and future self in a more tangible way, because it can often feel like this like kind of abstract idea.
Like, okay, how do I take this? I my dream from the end of the timeline and bring it to today. But let me give you an example. So imagine you wanna go to California. Yeah. For us in Utah right now, it's 600 miles away. , right? But, and you've got methods to get there. And the method is either you walk, you take a bike, you take a car, or you take a plane.
And the reason I use this comparison is because most of us when we put our dreams at the end of the timeline, it's like we're walking to it. I have all these steps in between. Like thousands upon thousands of steps to get to California, right?
Uhhuh, . Whereas on a bike, okay, I've just sped out that timeline. I'm gonna do California a whole lot sooner, right? And give myself, like, imagine, I, I would say, okay, it will take me this many months to walk to California , right? Yeah. Well, that would only take me this many days to ride to California. Oh, if I do a car, it'll only take me this many hours.
So you actually are creating time on the end of that now. So once, if you reach your goal that much sooner, you now have all that extra time to use on a different goal or a different vision, or a different growth strategy, right? And a plane, of course, is the best of what we got today. So it's like, oh.
Maybe it's only a hundred steps to get to the airport. Like get my car in the airport, go to walk to my terminal. And then a hundred steps is longer, longer than that. But you know what I'm saying, right? For our example, and now I'm there and I'm there so much sooner that I can use that time to do something entirely different.
Like, I've already made it to California, now I can just enjoy California. It's no longer my vision. It's my reality. Mm-hmm. . That is the key of time tipping, is seeing what is the quantum leap, right? Like if I go from walking to flying, that's a quantum leap. All of those are 10 x jumps. Walking to riding, to driving to plane, right?
And maybe someday bullet train and who knows? Like, but, but in reality, the way that we can do it as humans, our brain, it's almost. Let's just take you and I, for example, okay, we wanted to do businesses for a while, right? Both of us. But until we met, that vision wasn't really like coming to fruition. Like I was taking very little steps other than just chatting about it.
I wasn't less walking and more just like painting a picture of California 'cause mm-hmm. , look how this is how California might look if I ever got there. But then you and I decided, hey, let's, let's do a Kickstarter. And suddenly we were able to like put an idea out there into the world and it was so much easier to put out there into the world than it had been before.
It's like this quantum leap that suddenly from one day to the next for like a couple weeks I should say, we went from not being entrepreneurs to being entrepreneurs. Mm-hmm. , that was our 10 x jump. Then I look at it in my own life, I had long wanted to.
Buy a house for my wife, but on the current trajectory I was on working a corporate job that could have been five to 10 years down the road. It's the way, okay, how much money can we save each month? Da da da da. Where when I bought the business, suddenly overnight I was able to buy a house. Right. Like that.
It was, it took 10 years off of my timeline. Yeah. And, and that one was subconscious but the thing is, like, what, what Ben Hardy talks about in his book is that once you start understanding this way of thinking and you've got your vision there and you're like, this is what I wanna do, my current understanding is these are all the steps.
How can I remove all those steps? Right? Like looking for opportunities doesn't mean you don't work. Like Sure. Start moving towards it, but then look for opportunities to remove all the steps
Sheldon Mills: there's, okay. Loving this.
I think it's true the way you're describing it, I'm trying to broaden it a little bit to apply to more areas of people's lives.
Jeff Corrigan: Okay. Think this is what I wrote in my journal today. So I started to see this everywhere, was like, how do I make a quantum leap in
Sheldon Mills: your relationship with your
Jeff Corrigan: spouse?
Relationship With my spouse date night every week. Like what's a quantum leap in a relationship when more tied. So,
Sheldon Mills: know, I love Jennifer Fitness and Spice stuff, and, and I Sina he talks about differentiation in this concept, right? That basically you need to belong to yourself and others.
And that's like connection and meaning. And, and she describes intimacy as, as the willingness and ability to know and be known, right? Yeah. And something happened the other day where instead of thinking about it, wishing, hoping, I just, just like shared what I thought, what I felt.
Jeff Corrigan: . How'd it go over ?
Sheldon Mills: Awesome. That was the thing, and it was like, I could have thought about it and, you know, tried to plan steps A, B, C, D, E, F, G, or I could just live it now.
You know what I mean?
Jeff Corrigan: Yeah. Yes. It really does just come down to
believing something can be Yeah. Like we limit so much based on where we're. and where we've been. Yeah. And we believe the world. W interestingly enough, as much as we say the world can change, we don't believe it will. Right. We, we don't believe it will. And we can only see our current circumstances. It's like, this is where I'm in.
You can only see your're at circumstances. Yeah. And I've just begun to realize I'm telling you all this stuff is connecting so well for me now. Like where before I was kinda like, these are kinda weird, like abstract concepts and I'm like, oh, it's all future self. It's all where am I going and how can I make it happen?
Easier, sooner, better. Different than what I imagine it can happen right now. Right? Cause right now it seems so far away. Yeah. But then when you get on a plane, California's only an hour and a half, right? It's like, bam. I'm there. . Right. It's close. It's, it's not close. It's the same distance, but it does not take you as long to get there.
Right. It's like, oh, and that's what we gotta think about with our goals. Like I, I think about, I was even applying this to fitness. I was like, okay, why does somebody have a really nice, like physique and is super , fit versus someone who wants to, right. It's like, well, they go to the gym every day, . Now you're saying, okay, my quantum leap from this body to that body is, is simply, consistency. It's consistency. Right. Or even like writer, what? It takes me from non-writer to author writing , like write, writing the stuff. Yeah. Anyway, you've got a thought.
Sheldon Mills: Well, first you said you started to talk about your journal, so I wanna hear what you read in your journal. Wrote in your journal.
But I was thinking about that because I have now set up a system where me and my wife regularly work out together. It took a lot of time of, of setting up the habit, of doing something with her regularly. Yeah. And then it took, I, I spent thousands of dollars on equipment the barrier, the barrier to entry is walking down the stairs, right, yeah.
And turning on the tv and you know, it's like I've, I've simplified that so that it's, it's habitual, you know, we've done it enough. My wife, I used to feel for the longest time, and I still catch my stuff feeling like that. Like, am I pushing her? She doesn't really want this. I'm like, insisting. But then she always does.
Often she is the one's like, Hey, you, you ready to work out? I'm like, yeah, I'm ready. You know what I mean? . But what I'm saying is I now spend less time thinking about physical fitness and kind of like worrying less about it. I don't know that I want that less, but in terms of like my time spent thinking about it and, and committed to it is like almost nill
and yet, if I'm honest, , I go look in the mirror and I'm like, I'm in good shape, but I like, I look pretty good. That's
Jeff Corrigan: it, right? Like it's because. Not only have accepted the fact, but you're living in California. It's like I'm living it. Exactly. I'm in California. I'm living it now. Right? Like it's no longer a destination.
It is your life.
Sheldon Mills: It is our life. And ironically, there's a part of me that's like, I'm almost less, I mean, I want to get in better shape, do this and that and whatnot. And yet I, I'm less stressed about it because I, I know in my mind it's not if it's just when now, yeah. It's Since I'm living it, we're living in California, right?
Yeah. It's like, oh, this, it hasn't happened yet, but it's going to. Yeah. It's that belief. It's like, well, I'm not there yet, but frankly, like it's going to . You know what I mean? Yeah. The ocean's outside. It's right out the door. Yeah. ,
Jeff Corrigan: right? That's a great example because I feel like we gotta connect this dot .
It's going from, it's the knowing, wanting to, needing to knowing, right? It's like that's the
Sheldon Mills: ironic and all of a sudden it's like I'm trying to like feel, understand how mentally it's there, because I feel like there's many aspects in my life where I've gone from, from like needing to, wanting to, knowing now.
Yeah. And ironically, it hasn't happened yet, but it's going to happen. Yeah. It's just, there's no doubt,
Jeff Corrigan: right? Yeah. You're either on the trajectory, you're already on the path, right? You've planted the seed, you assume the identity, and you're doing the things, and now it's just really looking for the quantum leap.
It's like, okay, and fitness people may say like, well, there's no quantum leap. I'm like, that's not true. Once you reach California, you're now fit, right? Like right, you are fit. And now it's. Living in California, you're just maintaining the fitness. Right, right. My,
Sheldon Mills: my living in California is getting me to my frankly dream goals like that, that, that, that minimum standard of excellence.
Like I'm living that and it's getting me there.
I'm both not there, but because I live there, it's coming and it's no longer wanting or needing, it's just like I know I'm gonna get there. Yeah. It's part of your
Jeff Corrigan: life. Yeah. And now that you're in California, you can focus on other stuff.
Yeah. It's like, okay, like, like you just said a minute ago, it's like I don't have to think about working out anymore. It's just part of my routine. I don't have to think about eating healthy. It's part of my routine. I made this decision long ago. Right. It's, and it comes back to what we talked about last week, commitment.
Right. It's like, have you committed. To California right now. If, if you have committed, that's great. Now it's just a fat matter of looking at it and saying, am I walking? Am I biking? Am I driving? Or am I flying? Yeah. Like I've committed. Am I doing it the hard way, , right? Is it gonna take me 10 years to get there, right?
Or can I see now, say, okay, I've committed to this. Now what do I do? What's, what's the lever? Who's the who I can find, right? Who's the person I can find to help me see what I can't see? And get beyond my own. Like, I didn't even know there was a plane that existed.
Sheldon Mills: Right. So that was my next question. My next thought was this. So the commitment is, is living it in my idea. Like, in my mind it's like, okay, it's no longer a need or a want. It's like this is now part of my identity. It will happen eventually. Right? Yeah. Or
Jeff Corrigan: like when I was gonna buy a house. Yeah. Right.
I was saving money, but little bits. Yes. Like, cause that was all I could afford. Yeah. It was already committed, I was like, I'm gonna buy a house for my family eventually, right? Mm-hmm. , but then a whole lot sooner than I expected. I had the money to do it. Yeah. I had the financial, I had the financial change to do it.
Yeah. That was just a full on transformation. It's like 10 x doesn't always happen immediately. But once you commit the universe conspires to help you get there. And if you're looking for opportunities of how you can make a 10 x jump, they're there every day.
You're just not seeing them.
Sheldon Mills: So the 10 x jump, I would argue the 10 x jump isn't possible until you've committed a commitment Is the linchpin on, on where you can go from walking. Like until you commit, you frankly have no
Jeff Corrigan: destination. There's no motion. There's no motion at all. Right.
Sheldon Mills: Even if you are walking, I think a lot of people get discouraged because they recognize like, okay, I'm committed to this, but on my current trajectory it's gonna take 20 years.
Yeah.
And which again, if you're committ. Like you find a way. But that's, that's actually what happens is once you're committed, like you said, the universe conspires to help you mm-hmm. . And it's like, I wish you could tell people the secret, like, once you commit, you've started walking. Yes. But the secret to committing it's wherever your focus is, that's what grows Right.
Better, faster. Who's, hows? You'll get stronger. Like everything, you'll, you'll recognize people who are going in the same direction and say, Hey, they're not going a lot faster than I am. What are they doing's? Maybe.
Jeff Corrigan: Maybe the bike is a better job. Yeah. Right. It's like, oh, I got a better job.
Maybe. Maybe the car is a coach , like, right. Oh my gosh. Or a news stream of income or whatever that looks like. And I'm just financial. But it doesn't have to be Right. It could be anything. Yeah. It. Oh, like, I dunno how to get to this level of fitness. Okay. You get a coach who can show you how to get to that level of fitness.
Right? Like,
Sheldon Mills: and I would argue in today's day and age, that is simple as finding someone you like on YouTube and doing their routines every day.
Jeff Corrigan: Right? A hundred percent. A hundred percent.
Sheldon Mills: Yeah, I, I But committing is the linchpin. And then as you, focus, as you're growing these seeds, that's when , the who's and the how's come in and all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute, if I do this, this, this, and this, I can be like a super train
Yeah. You know what I mean? That gets me there. Hours instead of days. Yeah.
Jeff Corrigan: And you start to. Secret to change is not about you doing it all. As a matter of fact, it's the opposite. It's about you doing less, do what you do great, right? Transforming your life is about finding the levers to pull.
Like what lever can I pull that will make the biggest impact? Well, here's another example. I've long wanted to invest in some of these property projects , right? Mm-hmm. , and you have been too. So I've been spending the last few years being like, how do I get in on this stuff?
Right? Like, I just don't have enough of an nest egg right now to start putting it away, to, to make it really valuable and to make it valuable enough that someone wants my moneys. Like I need enough to make it valuable to them. Yeah. And then I can have the return that is, you know five times higher than what I'm getting out of, a normal.
Everyday investment, stock market, whatever. Right? And it's like suddenly the opportunity comes along, the economy shifts just so that for a moment we have a perfect opportunity. It's like the, the interest rates are really low and housing prices are really high. But it wasn't very long. It was what, like 12 months, ?
Where everything was just like top high, but really low money. Now it's the opposite, right? It's like high money . It's really expensive and it's high percentage. So we, you and I both took advantage of this, we took advantage of what existed in our life to make us more money. Like now my money can go to work for me.
Yeah. And it was an overnight change what looked like it could take me decades, not decades, but at least years to build up enough funds to make it worth it. I was able to do within a couple of weeks,
Sheldon Mills: Right. And we both did it and was like,
Jeff Corrigan: but that's, that's the quantum shift I'm talking about.
Like there's opportunities everywhere, but you have to be looking for them. You have to be committed to the to the future.
Sheldon Mills: Another ironic thing about this is once you these things in a different light, like you can never, like once the mental box has stretched, it never goes back to shape. Right?
Jeff Corrigan: Yeah.
I
Sheldon Mills: look back at that time and how leery you and I like nervous we were because it's something you've never done outside our comfort zones. Yeah. And now I look back and it's like the no brainer. I understand the process, I understand everything and I now know how to drive a car when it comes to these things.
Jeff Corrigan: Exactly right. We haven't hit plane status yet in the financial realm. We hit car status where it's like, oh my money's making me legit money. Yeah. My money's gonna work hard for me now.
Sheldon Mills: My money's gonna make almost as much
Jeff Corrigan: as the day job.
Exactly. Right. My money's making me money. So it's that concept. It's like, how much sooner can you get to where you are wanting to go than you believe you can right now? Right. A lot sooner. Cause it's really about finding the who, like, okay. It really took not only the right economy for us, but it also, who's that we're already
Sheldon Mills: doing without those connections?
Not possible. Well, we
Jeff Corrigan: wouldn't even have thought of it. Right? Yes. So it's like the car, the bike, the car, the plane. Those are all who's, they're all, they're all in some form or another who's right. It's all about people back, back again. Anyway, let me, lemme share with you or maybe, maybe any of this is useful.
Let's see. Yeah.
I was reading a new book by Slipstream Time Hacking. I didn't expect it impact me as much as it did. I'm understanding more and more how to create time in my life. , this is how you create time.
This is literally, you master time by understanding this principle. It really, it's that good. It's that important, right? It's like time doesn't exist. But your, but your, your attention does, where your attention goes, energy flows, right? Yeah. How to live my dreams and future.
Now this is what I, this is the question I've been giving my subconscious every night for the last week. It's just like, how do I live my dreams now? Like what, how do I do what I wanna do now? And this is the answer. I was just like, I've done it several times in my life, but I didn't realize I was doing it.
It just felt like a good opportunity. Okay. But in reality it was a 10 x transition. So, so often we put our goals and dreams on a timeline based on our current or historical understanding of circumstances. So it's like we base everything in the future on what we understand now based on our past.
It's like, yeah, which is the worst way to look at it. Cause you're gonna be different. What we should be doing is looking for the quantum leap or wormhole that can advance us into the future without the time passing we thought was required. When we change our trajectory, time looks different.
What if we measure time by distance traveled instead of time passed? Or in other words, what if we measure our life in experiences rather than time passed? We could live several lifetimes in a span of a few years. That's my, that
Sheldon Mills: was Myster. Remind you of that song I showed you. . Everybody's gonna die.
Don't, don't everybody
Jeff Corrigan: live though, . Exactly. Right. Like how many people get to old age and never have lived. Really? Yeah. A lot, unfortunately. But our goal, my friend, is to help them not do that anymore. . Oh. Well, he, he mentioned in the book I thought was interesting. There's a kid who, he's like, most people get about two weeks of vacation a year.
Yeah. And so out of 52 weeks they travel for two weeks or they donate, maybe they didn't travel for whatever. So there was a kid who was staying with us who had, who decided he just wanted to travel across the us. He was couch surfing for eight weeks. Mm-hmm. , it's like, so he experienced four years worth of vacation in eight weeks.
Sheldon Mills: I, I like this way of thinking. Right. Oh, it's so good. Right. He had four years of experience. He had four years of time of, of average person's time, vacation
Jeff Corrigan: time. And it's like you said, Well, and this is actually Jim Roan. Jim Ron's brilliant by the way, . He's just really understood a lot of this stuff from a different level.
And it's like you said, once your mind expands, once you see it differently, you can't unsee it differently. Right, right. But he was saying, he's like, I, I talked to a guy the other day, he's like, oh yeah, well I still got 20 more years. She's like, well, how many times do you go? Because he is saying about fishing or something.
He's like, well, how many times do you go fishing a year? He's like, ah, maybe twice. Once or twice. He's like, so really you don't have 20 more years. You have 20 more times, 20 more times to go fishing. He's like, you don't have 20 more years. If you only go once a year, you have 20 more times. And I was like, it's kind of a freaky thought, , right?
Where you start to realize, if I don't live now, like Richie's talking about, I'm not gonna live very much.
Sheldon Mills: If I don't live right now, I'm not gonna live very much. That is
Jeff Corrigan: profoundly You have to,
Sheldon Mills: yeah. You have to start to live and live to start, like
Jeff Corrigan: I'm getting, you
Sheldon Mills: have to live it
Jeff Corrigan: today. Yeah. It's finally sinking in. And now my question that I asked myself in my journal, the question that I'm gonna ask my subconscious now is, what else can I time tip? Where else, how else, who else can help me?
Time tip. Because, and, and it goes financials too. Look at Ben. And you look at good example from Ben Hardy is Dan Sullivan. Yeah. Who's like, Hey, I could either write all these books or I could partner with Ben Hardy and have him write me four books in a matter of like two years.
So he did. I mean, some people take years and years and years to write
Sheldon Mills: books. Right? Literally expanding his, his coaching by millions of dollars.
Jeff Corrigan: Tens of millions. Yeah. Tens of millions of dollars. He's figured that out. It's like he quantum leaped another decade in how many books he released in the last couple of years.
Yes. And it doesn't have to be I'm paying somebody truckloads of money. It's a partnership. Sometimes collaboration. So, so
Sheldon Mills: going back to I'm, you know, my President Nelson's talk was it How to Find Peace from the World, rest From the World, right. Has just like stuck in my brain. I cannot get it out of my mind.
I felt this call to step
Jeff Corrigan: up. You know what I mean?
Sheldon Mills: And this, at the end of the day, it's , the great commandment, love the Lord that I God with all they heart, my neighbors, myself. Yeah. . All of a sudden this thought, this idea that has evolved over time, it's like, what can I do today are right now like to show God to signal to God that, that I love him with all my heart, with all my, my soul.
You know what I mean? And all of a sudden the decisions I make in a day are much simpler. Right. It is much easier to be like, how do I show my love to him? Well do things he asked, right? So all of a sudden, you know, the difficulty of reading my scriptures if I don't feel like it isn't, is difficult anymore.
And like everything, you know what I mean? A disciple, a dedicated follower of Christ, it's like, You know, there's balance, meaning even for the youth, we talk about the emotional, physical, social, spiritual, right? It's like that is part of a, a well-rounded being physically strong or, or, you know, taking care of yourself physically is part of being a disciple of Christ.
Yeah. Being social and connecting with others and you know what I mean? That is part of it. Right. All of a sudden I've, I've realized like this more of a balance of like, you take those four, like intellectual learning, doing what we do. Jeff is part of that discipleship, right? And absolutely. All of a sudden it's like, we talked about this last time, like how you spend your time is how you show your love.
And another way of saying that's like you really show what you love by how you spend. Yeah,
Jeff Corrigan: you absolutely do.
Sheldon Mills: And the things you put first is where you spend your time and, and you always have time for the things you put first. It's really as simple as saying like, like you reap what you sell. Like the seed you're planting is the seed is is the fruit you're growing.
You know what I mean?
Jeff Corrigan: It all comes down to the savior once again, imagine that , imagine that the master here of all teachers. He understood it all perfectly, didn't he?
Sheldon Mills: Well, we're talking about this concept of time tipping and, and you have to live it now, right? That is 100% in line with what I think the principles that Christ teaches, right?
Oh yeah. Live it now and you'll have it in eternity.
Jeff Corrigan: Thank you so much for listening. You guys are awesome. We hope you enjoyed that backstage. Pass to this episode as we're calling it. Now, did the Habit
Sheldon Mills: Masters workout session?
Jeff Corrigan: I don't know, you saw the sausage being made, people , you saw the song being written as it were. Honestly, if you liked this episode, please let us show.
Sheldon Mills: Was this something we should do a little more often? Was it useful? Was it insightful?
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We're trying to get to a hundred reviews and it's just great feedback for us to know what you're liking. Or you can just email us Hello at Habit masters dot. Oh, by the way, we just got habit masters.com . So if you were wondering, we dropped the the, and we got habit masters.com. So now you can just email [email protected] and you can go to habit masters.com to view any of our latest episodes, check out our courses, all that good stuff.
You guys are amazing. We'll catch you on the next episode. In the meantime, Sheldon, what do they need to do? Start living
Sheldon Mills: your best life now, .
Jeff Corrigan: Yes, you got it.
Sheldon Mills: I'm not sure if that's what you were fishing for, but that's the only thing I could think of. Like, do it. Live it now. Start living it now. Figure out a way to live your dreams now.
Oh man. We gotta do that, guys.
Jeff Corrigan: Yep. It's time to start living your best life.
